Eagan: No one really wants to talk about George Bush, would be my question. You know why? Because if you saw the speech, he was in a full-throttle, Mad Magazine look--Braude: No, he was. He looked like Alfred E. Neumann.Eagan: It was the eyes darting, the look of uncertainty, the look of 'Oh my God, can I get through this speech without goofing it up. It’s one of those--and actually, you know who makes me feel that way? Not to the same degree--Braude: Who?Eagan: But you know who also makes me feel that way?Braude: No I don’t.Eagan: Obama. He makes me very nervous. When he’s doing a speech he’s different; he’s very good--Braude: He’s not great in debates--Eagan: But when he’s giving these off the cuff remarks, or if he’s in a debate, it’s the same kind of thing. 'Oh, can you get through this'--Braude: I can’t believe you could say that. While I agree he’s not good in debates, I think there’s an intellect differential that is about as big as the Grand Canyon. Are you kidding?Eagan: Well, there may be an intellectual--there may be an intellect differential, but he does not inspire confidence in his words. He makes me very nervous.Braude: What do you think--what’s the thought--Eagan: He inspires, you know, wet behind the ear. He reminds me of a kid in 4th grade the same way George Bush reminds me of a kid in 4th grade--can you get through the spelling bee?Braude: You are out of your mind.Eagan: I’m not out of my mind. This guy is--I cannot believe--Unidentified male: Osama Obama--Braude: That’s the other guy.Eagan: Very smart people support this man.