It was a very hostile meeting. I would say most of the hostility came from the classified ad* people who're being outsourced to India. This woman--her name doesn't matter--got up and said, she's been there 37 years, she loves the company, and basically, how can you do this? The paper's been cut back; we're kicked out; is this corporate greed or what? So Janet Robinson right off the bat had to handle this highly indignant, well-spoken classified ad person. And she just kept on talking about how they'd had to make very difficult decisions, they wouldn't be doing them if it wasn't necessary. That was basically the theme: in order to save the village, we have to destroy it.The union people really kept at her about the outsourcing--that was really the main theme. Dan Totten [the Globe union head] said it was appalling and disgusting, and when did they make the decision--because let's face it, we just agreed to this contract, and right after that they announced this outsourcing. Was that bad-faith bargaining? And [Robinson] never really gave an answer. She said [the outsourcing] had been under consideration for at least a year, but they didn't make the final decision until the terrible results of the final quarter were known. They didn't have a choice.Somebody said, why do you still want us as part of [the Times Co.] portfolio? And she went on about, you're a beacon of great journalism, people want to buy you and I admire their taste, but you're a very important part of the company.